R-11 (Budd, 1949)

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Designation Unit Numbers Manufacturer Years
R-11 8010-8019 Budd 1949
Length over Anticlimbers Width at Door Sills Height from Railhead Height, Railhead to Floor Seating Capacity Total Weight
60' 2.5" 10' 0 12' 2" 3' 9 1/8" 54 81,478 lbs.

Note: The R-11 cars were designated R-34 after rebuilding in 1965, but are labeled R-11 throughout this site.



The ten R-11 cars were a new technology test train ordered as a prototype for a new fleet for the Second Avenue Subway, which of course never materialized. The new technology included include "precipitron" sterilizing lamps, under-seat heaters, and damper control of fresh and recirculated air through ceiling and under-seat diffusers. The R-11 was the first stainless steel R-type. 15 years later, the Budd Company also built the first production stainless steel fleet, the R-32.

US Patent 153,367, applied for in 1947 by designer Otto A. Kuhler, illustrated a potential exterior design of the R-11 car. Kuhler worked for American Car & Foundry - but the R-11 car was eventually built by Budd. Presumably the patent was transfered to the city board of transportation and then used by Budd in the final design.

1949 Budd Company advertisement featuring the R-11 cars.

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