-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
M4/Q32 terminates on 32St between 7th and 6th Aves.
M10 terminates on 31St between 7th and 8th Aves.
Several of us visited the museum after the Gathering of Buses at Double A two years ago.
You were able to get to the website through the website of the Ct. Trolley Museum, but when I clicked on the site a few weeks ago it has been totally redesigned and the link removed. Two search engines came up empty.
Does anyone know anything if it still exists and the status of their collection, especially the Railbus?
Thanx in advance
Hart Bus
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
New Flyers > All ;)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Chris
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
BTW, what's the number of the RTS in the Transit Museum? I assume that's an ex-service one that's been chopped up to suit?
2253-2262 KB
2263-2280 COL
2281-2300 KB (DD 6V-92TA engine)
PA2443-PA2528 KB
PA2529-PA2579 COL
Did the MTA operate a demo RTS before placing their RTS orders, or was that the original number when first delivered?
David
David
The bus you are referring to was the original RTS demo for New York...it had a three-digit number beginning with 9...and it was an original slopeback.
As of July 30, 2004, the White Flint shuttle will be discontinued. The White Flint Shuttle was operated as a free service to area employees for over 13 years. The service was provided as part of a Traffic Mitigation Agreement that required that the shuttle be operated for a minimum of ten years. The service was operated through the White Flint Commuter Service Center.
Ride On Alternatives
There are two Ride On bus routes that serve customers along Rockville Pike (including White Flint Mall) -- route 5 and route 46.
You can see the partial schedule for the service in the morning from the White Flint Metrorail station south along Rockville Pike. Please note that service is also available throughout the day and in the evening.
For people who used the White Flint Shuttle to travel to locations along Executive Blvd. and East Jefferson Street, there are also several options using Ride On buses. You can enter your origin and destination into Metro’s “Ride Guide” to help plan your trip.
I assume all TA in these areas will be affected too, and what you feel about it?
Meaning MTA will have detours as well!
On Friday, I had the chance of riding 5607H on the 37. The sound of the engine, plus the way the bus moved on high-speed portions of Industrial Hwy, and Bartram Ave. Also the bus didn't vibrate while idling like most of the Flyers.
On Saturday, I had the fortune of riding several hybrid Orion 7's on the M60, and the M7. The engines sound almost exactly like the hybrids at SEPTA. When the buses got to speed on the Triboro Bridge, the engine hummed, like the sound heard on the Flyers.
What type of engines are used on the Orion 7 hybrids? I know the SEPTA hybrids use Cummins engines. And can anyone identify the engines used in the NJT RTS hybrids?
I thought all hybrids used the same engines, since cummins is the only one who made small enough engines for the hybrids.
Small engines aren't necessarily the case though when it comes to hybrids; King County Metro uses a Caterpillar C9 in their DE60LF. The bus's engine compartment had to be extended a few inches just to fit the engine.
In my opinion, I would have to prefer the Orion VII hybrid over the Flyer hybrid, only because I dig that jet plane sound of the Orion VII over the monotonous Flyer. Performance-wise, I won't make a judgement, since I haven't rode either system for an extended period of time.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Here's an old copy of the NYCTA Parkway permit. Our fleet is granted access to the entire length of the Cross Island:
--------------------- BEGIN PERMIT --------------------
Name: NYC TRANSIT AUTHORITY / SPECIAL OPERATION
Date(s): 24 HOURS A DAY / 7 DAYS A WEEK - AS NEEDED
License Plate(s): FLEET BUS
Valid on the following roadways:
[x] Pelham Parkway
[x] Mosholu Parkway
[x] Richmond Parkway
[x] Grand Central Parkway
[x] Hutchinson River Parkway
[x] Cross Island Parkway
[x] Bronx River Parkway
[x] Harlem River Drive
[x] Other: Henry Hudson Parkway
[x] Belt Parkway: except between Knapp Street & Rockaway Parkway limited to vehicles under 10,000 pounds (5 tons) fully loaded.
Restrictions/Conditions: COPIES OF THIS PERMIT VALID
Dated: October 8, 1999
Expires: September 1, 2000
Purpose: TO TRANSPORT PASSENGERS
This permit is subject to revocation if the applicant does not comply with all pertinent laws, rules, and regulations, including any conditions or restrictions imposed by the Bureau of Authorized Parking & Permits.
This permit must be displayed in the vehicle window or be held in the drivers posession. Upon request, driver shall present it to a
Police Officer, Traffic Enforcement Agent, or other authorized person. The permittee will assume all risk and must comply with all Federal, State and New York City laws and safety requirements. It is
incumbent upon permittee to establish the clearance of all overpasses and egress ramps. The Department of Transportation, by issuance of this permit, is not party to any contract of the permittee. This permit may be revoked by the Commissioner of the Department of Transportation for abuse.
Copies of this permit have been sent to the following agencies:
[x] Police
[x] DOT Enforcement
[ ] Other
--------------------- RENEWAL AND ATTACHMENT --------------------
Dear Permittee:
Your permit to travel on New York City parkways has been extended through SEPTEMBER 30, 2001 In order for this extension to be valid, you must display in each vehicle a copy of your original permit, anda copy of this letter. Failure to do so invalidates this permit. Be advised that the extension contained herein should not be construed as an indication of any action that this Agency may take in future application for renewal. Note also that CURRENT PERMITS ARE NOT VALID ON:
[x] FDR DRIVE - Travel is governed on limited portions of the Drive by signage.
[x] OCEAN PARKWAY - Main Roadway
[x] HENRY HUDSON PARKWAY / MILLER HIGHWAY - Coaches, full-size school buses and vehicles over 10 tons (20,000 lbs) MAY NOT USE:
57th Street to 72nd Street Northbound
79th Street to 57th Street Southbound
Check your current registrations for vehicle weight. Violators will be summonsed and face possible revocation of permits.
Da Hui
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
Coach USA doesn't run any coaches shorter than 11'4 (DL3, D4500 etc.), so they still would have issues.
I drive the CIP almost every day and other than a few NYCT busses turning around I never see any others.
CG
I don't think that bus runs anymore.
CG
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
I rode on the M14,15,BX40,BX1,and the M101
As we all know all these routes run out of differant depots
I was on another few non artic buses as well from Kingsbridge and Gun
Hill. The artics I was on where not as bad as I keep hearing, even
though the M14 artics I was on looked far more superior to the other
artics. Worst out of them all came from 100 St. I have rode on the M101 a lot most of the time the bus is not clean in and outside.
I have also been on many Kingsbridge and Gun Hill artics(mainly on
the Bx12 and 22) and those artics where just fine. All the 126 artics
looked way better than the ones from 100 St. And the artics I was
on from Kingsbridge and Gun Hill looked much better than the ones
from 100 St.
So maybe the people bashing KB and GH should go out and take a good
ride on about 10 of each of these artics from all these depots
then judge. Lets not bash a whole depot cause of a few buses.
Thats what I think and I investigated for myself and I am not done
expect another report soon from the investigation I am doing
Next weeks report
KB Vs GH
I've been riding GH buses on a very regular basis for the greater part of 7 years.
How about you?
so what can I say, but I only can go by what I can see
Sleep is good, don't post without it folks...
I will have to admit GH buses aren't in the best shape, and niether is KB, but 100th Street's artics are starting to go down hill. Believe it or not Gun Hill is not even close to the worst of the fleet. Go out there, ride buses from other depots, I challenge you, ride one bus from each depot. Guaranteed, you'll long for one of those Gun Hill buses (*cough*Yukon*cough*).
Oh and before you get beside yourself and call me and idoit, I live in the Bronx also and ride GH buses.
Regards,
Trevor Logan
It may not be my business, but calling him an idiot... Is that necessary. I think it's clear to all of us that you strongly disapprove of Gun Hill and Kingsbridge which is OK, but you probably should stop short of insulting someone else.
I do see that KB and GH buses are looking a bit neglected, but if you think that's they're the worst at NYCTA... I think you're not seeing the whole picture.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Apparently a Neo operating on a 7 or 8 run caught fire near Elm St and Nepperhan Avenue. Does anyone know anything else? There was also a Bee-Line bus caught fire in Yonkers sevral weeks ago too. Was that a Neo?
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
A lot of Bee-Line drivers work split shifts, too. They're off for a few hours during the middle of the day and cover both rush hours.
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
Regards,
Trevor Logan
That's Yonkers! ;=D
Trevor
Well, at least I took some nice shots of her.
cut and paste above - photos included
typo in the first post
after "33554" it is upposed to read "§ionId=45" for some reason when i go to post it gets changed to some strange symbol
The damage to that bus looks nasty!
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
Anyone got the story?
Thanks for any information.
Regards,
Trevor Logan
Joe
I know Route 13 goes to UCF ( http://www.golynx.com/schedule.cfm?route=13 )
Or UCF run its own route 47 ( http://www.golynx.com/schedule.cfm?route=47 )
See if it works for you, if not look at system map:
http://www.golynx.com/RouteMaps/LYNX_SystemMap-Browser.jpg
Or call them 407-841-LYNX
Cheers!
Looking at the schedules, LYNX runs a fuckin increadible system. Buses as early as 5am(maybe other runs have earlier buses), and they run every 30 mins. The transfer at the downtown terminal is only 10 minutes(do LYNX buses usually get delayed?).
Also, that bus stop at UCF, it's about 2 miles from where I'm stayin, but I think I can get a ride to the stop. Only problem is that it takes 2 hours to get from UCF to Wet N Wild. Oh well, something to do.
Is there any other system in the area, aside from Greyhound?
LYNX starts 430am and last bus is 330am as far I know!
I personally rather sit on those Phantoms for 2 hours than some of these buses I see on other systems. Least it's plush with TV's and good shocks.
You're outta luck that the 101 doesn't run anymore. One buck, takes you straight on the highway to downtown from UCF. Just a few minutes.
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What you're going to have to do though is go West to Downtown and at the center go south to I-drive. Will tkae you two buses. I bet you're on University, so it's going to be the 13. If not then use teh 30. Both are accessible via the UCF superstop. Don't worry about fares, if you're taking 4 buses or more in a day, get the daypass. This way if you need to backtrack no problem.
From downtown you have a few options. During service industry rush hours There's a bus that does I-4 from downtown to the I-drive corridor. One goes to disney, the other on I-drive. Route 38(50 does disney, but you can still get on another bus to I-drive from there). The slower non-highway one is the 8 bus.
Like I said before, if the 101 was running, it would've probably taken you 30 minutes or as fast as by car, 101 to the 38, and only have 3 stops the whole way. I'm as sad as you probably are(I used to live on a 101 stop, cheaper than tolls, or gas, or parking).
Superstop:
previously mentioned 38 bus:
DAMNIT! Now I'm gonna be stuck going down Colonial Drive for who knows how long. That's the one street I remember in Orlando, and it was BACKED UP. Why did they stop this run? Low ridership?
According to Lynx, I'm supposed to take the 13 to downtown, then the 8 to wet N wild. A lil over 2 hrs.
That express bus to I-drive, does it stop at Wet N Wild?
On the map, the 38 does hit Wet in Wild. Goes down I-4 to the beeline, then works it's way up I-drive to wet 'n wild and get's back on i-4 to downtown. 32 min ride.
starts at 6am-8.30 every 15 minutes.
and 2-5(or 2.30-6 from wnw). Service industry rush hours.
But if you can use it in one direction....looks liek a great bet.
I should really scan that 101 schedule I have someday.
on one hand good thing i dont' have to go back to school anymore, on the other I don't remember there being any summer this year.
2. NYU's buses are not ex-NYCT.
David
MetroB
1st Level had the Maintenance area , pull in line> vacuum, fuel ,wash . Bus parking . Yard dispatcher office.
2nd Level ( great view of the river & N,J)
Middle and rear ( open air with just a roof and low side walls )more overnight bus parking ,employee parking ,a couple of vintage buses .Maintenance storage areas . In the front half(enclosed ) was the Depot operations area > Crew Window ,Swing room ,Supervisor offices ,a small snack/coffee room ,and back in the day Training had its offices there.
Im sure it may have changed somewhat since i last saw the inside.
MetroB
Well, aside from whatever percentage is missing due to inaccessability on some rail lines...
Oddly, I've NEVER seen anyone in a wheelchair even TRY to catch the 66...
Wasn't 3200 the LED signed bus that Frontier had? It will be missed.
I saw someone catch the 23 in a wheelchair back when it wasn't officially a wheelchair accessible route. In fact, the person was very lucky our bus was w/c accesible - most of the buses running on that line were DKs and EBs at the time.
of course, they're a welcome sight... since SEPTA decided to go almost entirely with the termius' intersection for bus routes terminating IN Philadelphia using Neoplans... exceptions made to turnback points at landmarks or large terminals (i.e Frankford, Fern Rock, Wissahickon, Olney). The newer buses simply stick with "Chestnut Hill" for the 23's northern terminus.
Which is something ELSE I'd wondered about... why suburban turnbacks are signed for the area in which the line terminates (or WERE in some cases, i.e. the 110 and 111), but Philadelphia turnbacks are mostly signed for the intersection of the layover.
I was always confused with the 27. The destination on the schedules and the bus stops would say "Broad and Washington" yet every bus would say "Broad and Carpenter". I guess this is so people are aware that the bus would lay over at that intersection. Usually, the suburban routes have an area where they can park after the end of the line (or they can park right at the terminus).
Moving into the city, it's almost always a cycling or single-sign of the intersection. Understandable in some cases, such as with the off-street loops... usually, the intersection gives the loop it's name, so it's no big deal.
However, with the non loop/mall/whatever intersection-based turnbacks, why not go by the area name in question? The 65 could get away with a sign simply reading "Germantown" without Chelten Avenue mentioned... Flat Rock Road Loop trips on the 61 are signed for Manayunk, and when the 9 and 32 went into Andorra, the sign would just read, "Andorra"... they cycle through the layover intersection for the 35, though.
Penn's Landing is tricky... if not using the viaduct, the "Front & Market" sign works fine, and is better used to prevnt confused riders. However, I'm also wondering, why not sign the 2, 17, and 48 for the district of terminus instead of the intersection? Or the H/XH for the station at Broad & Erie instead of the intersection? Same with the 68 at Oregon.
About the only times I figure the intersection should be used are in areas of obscure neighborhood names (67th & Elmwood, 40th & Market (seeing as most people think of the area closer to the hospitals for University City), 50th & Woodland), loops, Front & Market, 54th & City, and for anything that's a crosstown route (i.e. 29, 39, 54, 60, 79)
Anything radiating (from terminal outward, i.e. anything from Frankford) should be signed for the neighborhood of turnback, with limited exceptions (those being the 14, 20, and 84 (Southampton Road trips).
The 66 and 59 MIGHT have some Neos left to them as well.
Also, there's the 29 and 79... I think. I see NOTHING but Neoplans on them, but unsure of their numeric series, or their w/c capacity.
For example, if a destination sign read " 2 - NICETOWN " , someone would ask "Where in Nicetown?", so the destination sign reads "2 - Hunting Park-Pulaski Ave", the exact corner where the line ends, because Nicetown encompasses a sizeable area in North Philly.
That being used to Philly style destinaton signs caused somewhat of a culture shock when I moved to DC in 1979, and I had to get used to WMATA's use of neighborhood names, such as "42 - MOUNT PLEASANT". Now where in Mount Pleasant does the bus end at? I found out one day when I rode the bus to the exact end of the line. At least in NYC, they give the neighborhood name and the street they end at like "M1 HARLEM- 147 St."
Now, of course, signs designating landmarks are easy because it is given that everybody in the city knows landmarks.
Take the 400 series from Philly... what few intersection-based turnback signs they had, they phased them out... 406 went from cycling "Marlton Pike/Roosevelt Ave" to simply "Pennsauken"
The rest of them stick with one sign for wherever they terminate. Sicklerville, Salem, Turnersville, Trenton, Millville, Atlantic City, Pine Hill, Erial, wherever. Yet, looking at the timetables, there are often two or more timepoints to one terminating area.
Of course, with City routes, SEPTA rarely (if at all) mentions the neighborhood name on the timetable., which could have something to do with it.
And the 2 falls under the "crosstown" thing as well... only it goes north/south instead of east-west, but yes, they also would do better with intersection-based signs.
I figure... the 31 could get away with an "Overbrook Park" sign instead of "76th-City", since Overbrook Park is pretty small. The J and 26 can stick with their intersections in Germantown, the 65 doesn't really need it.
Mind you, the loop scenario remains in effect... the 46 sticks with "63rd & Malvern", name of the loop... yt the 18 has "Fox Chase", also a loop name.
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
Here, they live on (all photos are of 3096 at Frankford Transportation Center).
Miss you! :-(
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
I personally hate them because although they're really close to buses with their clearance lamps and large size, they suck because they're extremely impractical and the Hummer H1 lacks quality materials and has an impractically (especially for a beastily large SUV) cramped and unfriendly interior.
I'd take buses over cars/trucks/vans/SUVs any day, and trains over ALL of them, but just out of curiosity, do you like or hate Hummers? Thanks.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
That's the message Dave has placed at the bottom of every Response form. Note what I made bold.
I just feel that the H2 was made just for the hell of taking huge and impractical to the next extreme, and saying "screw you" to the owners of hybrid electric cars, like the civic, prius, insight, and Accord.
-Chris
What the hell is wrong wit u. Come on now, you can't ride trains and buses everywhere, at the some point you will see havin a whip is better than taking the bus or train somewhere. Dont get me wrong I like the trains and buses and all but come on now. Ill take a whip over a train or bus anyday.
If you ask me, the hummer H2 is small in the inside. Ill take the H1. Ma pops leased one, didnt like it. O well. Other than that I liked it because we had 24z on da joint, TVs the whole nine. But it is type small. No leg room, I need some more leg room in ma ride.
Does that mean you hate buses? You are contridictating yourself.
I like the H1 but hate the H2. The H1 is probably one of the only TRUE Sports Ultility Vehicle on this continent. It can go truly off road, not only on a gravel road but mountain and boulder climbing. Not to mention they are also chosen by The US Armed Forces to serve in Iraq in whatnot (theirs are mine-resistant) On the other hand, the H2 is a sissy's Hummer for people who want to afford a Hummer. It's capabilities are not as great as the H1 but it's still a true Sports Ultility Vehicle and can go far more off road than any other SUV (other than the H1). So I dont know what you were smoking when you say you hate Hummers, and also when you think you saw LEDs on that DE60i.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Maybe you should take the hint and stop posting.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Chris
What the f*ck?
You should include 'Off Topic' in the title of any non-bus threads.
I apologize in advance to you all for this one. But this thread wasn't going down the list and kept egging me.
Even a buddy of mine who's done some stuff to his own honda says the same thing. He wonders why you'd do all that and drop a big engine in one too when you could've just bought the sports car. I blame it on suburbia.
And spinners WERE cool, until everyone started putting them on. You can buy fake spinner hubcaps now!!
Customizing your car is cool, but some of these people have no taste or sense.
Rims on SUVs are kinda odd and frightening, but nice to look at. Fake spinning hubcabs? How does that work, and how is that different from the "real" ones?
http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?id=33554§ionId=45
Sorry, copied and pasted something else by mistake.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
But regardless of what NFI wants to do, they MUST build the remaining D60HFs, because that's what their contract tells them to do. They can't just change their minds and start building the rest as low-floors. A new bus like that would have to be tested here first.
I don't remember if that one low-floor artic that was once tested here was from NFI or not, but even if it was, the MTA would have to cancel their current contract, and then make a brand new order if that's what they wanted to do.
Well, now that I know that they have to be D60HFs, my only question (somewhat rhetorical) is if they'll have LEDs anywhere else (like the reverser taillamps, cuz I know the Orion VII has those).
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
But no matter, you're going to love them nevertheless. They're going to feature LED desgination signs and turn signals, LED taillamps and reverse lights, LED headlights and curb lights. But thats not all, they're also going to feature LED flashing wheels with a LED axle center. The driver's console will be entirely LEDs, the edges of passenger seats will be lined with LEDs, and the LEDs of a seat of the person vandelism will start flashing and beaming lasers to kill the person. But theres more, the entire interior lighting of the entire bus will also been LEDs, as well as your superior vandelism camera idea. The cameras will have LEDs beaming on them, and the driver's monitor for the camera will be entirely LEDs. The stop requested tape will also be lined with LEDs which will trigger the LED flashing Stop Requested sign.
Thus, they shall be your favorite buses.
The world came crashing to a halt as the first DE60i arrived in New York.
My oh my...what is NY coming to?
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
David
NYCT did loan D60LF from St.Paul Metro Transit In Minnesoat back in early 2003 not 1999 for 30 day test in MJQ Depot on M23 line. I have seen this bus few times when i report to MJQ Depot last year and it a good bus. I would love to see NYCT order more D60LF in the future.
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
Started out around 2pm by taking 865 on the B8 to Flatbush Av where I transfer to the B41 LTD. I wait about 10 minutes for any bus to show up so I see 9428 and the bus is pretty much jam packed so something went wrong but I manage to get on and its a rather slow ride along Flatbush Av and a W/C gets off at Church Av then the bus continues to go rather slow and after GAP things became much much worse. Traffic was just gridlocked so I forget about a B51 ride, which I wanted to do but somehow I had a gut feeling that the Manny-B was messed up or w/e. A trip that takes no more than 30 minutes took nearly an hour as a result of the backups and at Atlantic Av I just got off and walked over to Fulton St to get one of the mall buses & while that fared better, turning onto Livingston St was a challenge. I get on 5060 and take the short trip to Jay St to think about getting on the B61 then the B39 but then I realized [and read in the Daily News] that there was a traffic checkpoint at the Williamsburg bridge so that was out.
I ultimately decide to ride the 4 train through Manhattan into the Bronx and take no chances on other possible delays on the bridges so I would take the trains for getting between boroughs. Anyway I missed two Bx19's so I just walk over to Morris Av to wait on the BX32, which I would be riding for the first time. About 15 minutes later 6075 arrives at the bus stop and I take a ride north to Burnside Av to transfer to the Bx40/42 to head oevr to the River Park Towers to then get the Bx18. I get 5366 on the 42 and ride to the terminal and its not too bad of a area. Luckily I only have to wait 5 minutes for the next 18 so I board 8842 and its a cool, quick ride along Macombs Rd; I recommend a ride on the route though watch the headways. Got off at 170 St to ride the 11 and its a 15 minute wait before 9116 arrives and the bus is very crowded and people always crowd the front and leave room in the rear, it never ends :-\.
Pretty long trip at first seeing that we made 90% of the stops from Grand Concourse to WF Square but it wasn't to bad overall and I see a couple of ZF O7's along the way, including the bus behind mine. Next part of the trip is a ride on the Bx5 so I wait for 5293 to pull into the stop and the A/C is nice and cold then we wait to pull off and the bus has pretty bad acceleration but the takeoff sounds nice and we make most of the stops along Story Av then I see 1071 on the Bx5 so that is probably a extra or something. Got off at White Plains Rd to get on the Bx36 and had to wait quite a while for any 36 to show, meanwhile I saw 6 buses pass by going towards Pugsley Av. I won't reveal the bus #'s [excwpt the one that I rode] but there were 3 ZF O7's, two O5's and one RTS and one of the O7 buses went OOS but I still managed to get a ZF O7 anyway, 7700. Cool ride and not much to say on this portion so I get off at Grand Concourse to catch the D train back to the city then take the R to 14 St for the final part of the trip.
I'm now at Union Sq and ready to go home so I see 5767 on the M14A and its a pretty mellow ride to Delancey St and the B39, 5073 was arriving at the bus stop so no long wait there and the bridge traffic was normal; otherwise I would of just taken the J or M train across the river. At WBP I just missed 5109 on the B44 LTD so a 10 minute wait for 5114 and its a good ride via Nostrand Av to Avenue D where I get on 846 right away and finish my trip.
NF 865 B8
RTS 9428 B41 LTD
RTS 5060 B26
R142 7108 (4)
O5 6075 Bx32
NF Artic 5366 Bx42
RTS 8842 Bx18
RTS 9116 Bx11
NF Artic 5293 Bx5
O7 7700 Bx36
R68 2583 (D)
R46 5992 (R)
NF Artic 5767 M14
RTS 5073 B39
RTS 5114 B44 LTD
NF 846 B8
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Sorry for going off the original topic, but just saying so.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
A "limited-faster ride"? Sorry but "faster ride" does not exist on the Bx12.With slow ass twinkie buses and traffic along Fordham Rd,faster ride becomes slow SUPER BUMPY ride.Nevermind that all 12's that serve the depot during the day are LTD's ANYWAY.You ride the Bx12,you'll have a back ache by the time you get off.
Da Hui
Da Hui
I have it signed for Franconia-Springfield which is one destination it will never go to since that is an OmniRide route, not OmniLink. Hopefully my pics come out ok.
I hope we get to take it out for a spin today. If not, in the next couple of days.
I'm not sure when its going to enter revenue service. I'd look for it in the next couple of weeks though.
Sounds awesome - I can't wait to see it next time I'm in the DC area!
....or at least I would...
eh..it's a Killig...I guess I'll come down for an hour or two..
I'll find out when it actually goes into revenue service and let you guys know.
How is your interior set-up? I like the 40', but hte 30 and 35 foot advantages are awkward on the inside imo.
The seating is different than I thought. Since normally a 30 footer seats 23, they actually put sideways seats over the front wheelwell and got an additional 5 seats out of it. The funny thing is that they are so high that there is a thing that folds down for you to put your feet otherwise they are dangling, no matter how tall you are! I'm 5'11 and my feet were still a couple feet off the ground, but when you folded down the running board, your feet were ok.
There are a few forward facing seats on the lower deck, but the whole top part is all forward facing. I think the riders will like them, at least I hope so!
I can't wait to see the people sitting on the wheel-well. That's definitely a first for me! Hopefully, it will hit the road soon for testing. Just waiting for the tags and title so its road-worthy.
Chuck Greene
It's great that there are actually seats on the wheelwell - I can't wait to see it. That's one of the reasons I like the SLF somewhat - a couple seats on the wheelwell, making it seat as much as an El Dorado transmark RE (SEPTA style, of course).
Now, I am even more anxious to ride on of those advantages!
Tell Chris you want one copy each of the "Department of Buses Insiders Guides" from 1996 through today. They will mail whatever they have available to your home free of charge.
You will then have all your questions answered, and in handy print form.
I was going to ask the same question - can we do that (or is this a red herring?) I am actually, missing several of those guides and would love copies to complete my collection. I enjoy reading them.
flx7595
I know that there are other Dorado transmarks throughout the US, I don't remember the cities (I think Valley Metro has them?). The point of this post is that I'm wondering if those other cities are having problems with their El Dorados to the point where some of them have to live in the shops and whatnot. Thanks for any info!
~I was hoping for a VROOM, but instead I got a cutaway
TTYL
SEPTA should have gotten a 30 foot Neoplan AN430, instead of those cheap-assed rental car shuttles that the Eldorados are.
As much as I like the Dorados, it's a shame that we got the shuttle type 30fters. Aren't there any good 30ft buses out there, besides the New Flyer and RTS? Orion V, yeah, but I don't think Orion will ever find a place in SEPTA territory.
Where are Orion Is when you need them?
My recollection is that the last 10 Mabstoa buses from the order of 5201-5525 had batwings, as sort of a test I guess. The next Mabstoa order (6401-6900) saw the last 200 buses with batwings. The next combined Mabstoa/TA order, which were the first air conditioned buses (other than a few former Fifth Avenue Coach buses), all had batwings (8001-8202 TA; 8301-8790 Mabstoa). Part of the next TA order (88 & 8900's) had batwings.
THANKS ALOT
-When do you think a bus is fueled, washed and maintainted?
-How do you think a bus pulls in and out? If they are in a line, then wouldn't you think whatever is available to pull out first does?
-Of course a bus can run the same route but different run.
-The dispatcher question you've asked so many times.
If you live in Albany, why don't you contact CDTA and ask them some of these questions? I'm sure they'd love to share some information with you. Everyone here has gone out of their way to give you information and you still ask for it. Look in the archives, please!!!!
2. This question has been asked many times by the person who's asking it now. LOOK IT UP!!!!
3. Generally, it's last in, first out, but the Yard Dispatcher can make exceptions for whatever reason.
4. See 3. above, plus if the maintenance people want a bus back into the depot right away because it's due for inspection, it will be given to an Operator who's due to pull the bus back in after only a few hours.
David
No. Buses are fueled and washed upon PM pull-in for the night. This is part of the PM Drill which includes cash removal and data transfer, as well as routine line maintenence. For daily scheduled pull-in's, buses are pooled- pulled into the depot and set-up for immediate pull-out. Most bus depots don't begin fueling until 7:00 PM, and that activity will run until 3:00 AM. Also, if a bus breaks down on the road, it is first Drilled, then placed onto the Bad Order line to await its turn in the repair line.
2. This question has been asked many times by the person who's asking it now. LOOK IT UP!!!!
They've all been asked and answered. If you're going to answer one, you may as well answer them all. No?
One bus can run on any route and any run within that respective depot. A bus can also run on a route outside the home depot if it's been used as a 'swap bus'; that is- a bus that's been assigned to a driver who's original bus isn't available (for a variety of reasons- namely mechanical failure). Swap buses are available whan a depot has extra buses. They are usually parked at strategic locations throughout the city where many bus lines converge. If no swap bus is available, the OA 'parlor bus' will become the swap bus.
3. Generally, it's last in, first out, but the Yard Dispatcher can make exceptions for whatever reason.
Actually, it's first-in, first out, because the first bus is parked to the front-most part of the parking lane.
4. See 3. above, plus if the maintenance people want a bus back into the depot right away because it's due for inspection, it will be given to an Operator who's due to pull the bus back in after only a few hours.
This is called an "EPI" or "early pull in' bus.
But that wasn't the question. The question was, "How does the dispatcher pick buses to assign".
Answer:
Every night, one of the Drillers (a bus driver working overtime or a scheduled piece of work that doesn't involve operating in passenger service- called a 'Trick') will walk every track in the depot and create what's called a 'floor plan'. Every bus is written down where it's parked. The yard dispatcher then picks from that floor plan based on mileage of the bus drivers run.
Does that answer your questions?
Does that answer your questions?"
Another wasteful operating practice. Simple transponders on the bus could create a bus placement chart instantly.
Technology isn't always the answer. Why get more gadgets to run, learn, and maintain when you can use a decent processor known as a human being that has space in their schedule to do this? It's cheaper and more efficient and you ALWAYS talk about the MTA being less wasteful.
Brain power first, then technology.
David
As I recall, not much of the early or midday work at either JGL or MTV pulled-in, but rather, made reliefs. In this case, the buses couldn't be fueled until the PM drill because they'd be out on the road all day. At QV, just about everything pulls in and out with the select few exceptions of the Q36.
David
2-Yes. I have seen(for example) bus #9090 operate on run #16 on the B1 in the morning and then be on the B6 run #60 later that afternoon-it does happen.
3-buses pull in on a line. You should see the line at Yukon at night when the express buses are pulling in. The wait is as long as 1/2 hour or more to get in.
4-it's whatever is parked in front. If #8891 and #8775 are parked in front and the hawks are due out first,that is what is got.
B1-#9315-NOVABUS
B64-#9340-NOVABUS
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-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
You should do what PSTA does, when the NF's break down replace them with some 1993 or '88 Flx's and let the gilligs continue their shifts. :)
So it appears that there IS another type of clean-air engine out there. So now you're asking, "What does this have to do with buses?" Well I'm wondering this: Would a bus be able to get a PZEV engine if english-speaking engineers from Volkswagen would help the manufacturer (NFI, Orion, or NABI)? Think of the benefits: No more freakishly huge hump on the roof, which may contribute to being able to make a clean-air high floored bus that isn't a diesel bus with an engine filter (I figure low floors are only possible for clean air buses because of the extra weight from the roof hump)! What do you think? I wonder if NFI will ever make an Artic like this named the New Flyer PZE60HF Articulated...or Orion with whatever number Orion it will be...or NABI or anyone else.
Thanks for your thoughts.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn) is a kid with a brain that never turns off! LOL.
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TENAFLY, N.J. -- Residents of about a dozen homes were evacuated and a busy street closed for about 90 minutes Tuesday while authorities searched a commuter bus after receiving an anonymous call that a bomb was aboard, police said. No bomb was found and people were allowed to return to their homes, and Engle Street was reopened about 5:35 p.m., police Chief Michael Bruno said. Police stopped the bus and removed all aboard after NJ Transit received a call regarding the bus, Bruno said. The Bergen County bomb squad also responded. NJ Transit sent a replacement bus so about eight passengers could continue their trip during the search, spokesman Dan Stessel. The bus that was checked, No. 7572, was on Line 166, and had left the Port Authority terminal in New York about 3:50 p.m., en route to Dumont, Stessel said. It was stopped about 10 minutes later.
Bomb Threat Prompts Evacuation Of N.J. Bus
WNBC News via Associated Press - August 3, 2004
TENAFLY, N.J. -- A bomb threat on a bus in New Jersey turned out to be a fake on Tuesday. Authorities received an anonymous call, prompting police to stop the N.J. Transit bus and evacuate its passengers. About a dozen homes were also evacuated and a busy street was closed for about 90 minutes as authorities searched the vehicle. No bomb was found, and people were allowed to return to their homes by about 5:30 pm. The bus had left Port Authority in New York at about 3:50 p.m., heading to Dumont on the number 166 line.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
WHat does it look like? IT LOOKS LIKE A BUS!
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
And thanks for the site update comment....another one is coming soon...
SAS
Again,...
Again,...
Sticks and stones may break your bones but words and pix will never hurt you.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Ok, I've been able to tolerate some of your less than intellegent rants about bus stuff you wish to see but not know about...AND ADMIT TO IT. But you have crossed a thin line, when you start calling Grumman Flxibles Stupid.
Stupid, Eh?! Banging or Running your head into walls......THAT'S STUPID!!!!!
And I Dare You To Respond.....I'm PMS'ing anyways and I'm ready to light ass.
If y'all accept, I'd be happy if we can be regular friends again. Thanks.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Second of all, THAT IS NOT A GRUMMAN IN THAT PICTURE! It is an ex-New Jersey Transit Flxible Metro-B, #3191, now owned by Double A in Rocky Hill, CT...
Third, I don't give a sh** about that sticks and stones bullsh**, it STILL has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR ORIGINAL POSTS about what the hell that MC9A looked like, which again sounds stupid...in the way you asked it...GEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SAS
I'm sorry, I coulnd't resist :-D.
You wanna get flamed too?
You just watch your step!
(btw, nice...lolol)
SAS
GROFAB G-UNIT
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
(That wasn't directed at you, Mr. Diamond...)
(sorta disgruntled)
SAS
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
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Mark Valera
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-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
I always thought that the TMCs were the best ones.
For me, NYCT GMC RTS-04Anyway, I prefer the Nova because of the LEDs and I find the motors of the older RTSs rather frightening and ghostly. :-\
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
I guess the reason for that is the fact that it's four years old!
Da Hui
Wayne
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Example:
Front sign: EMERGENCY
then CALL POLICE
Side sign: Ditto above, except of course in smaller letters.
Rear sign: CALL
COPS
But the interio destination sign panel in the B/O's cabin still reads (remember this is an EXAMPLE):
M23-CHELSEA PIERS
then M23-12 AV
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
I saw this on a Bx9 once that had the sign set incorrectly.
And i hope they dont, because i like my RTS's.
-Chris
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
-Chris
-Chris
If Atlantic Express doesn't renew it's contract by September, then what will happen to both the X23 & X24 express routes.
Thing 1... That's "its," not "it's."
Thing 2... You're asking a question. Use a question mark ("?").
Thing 3... Wait a month and we'll all find out together!
I really hope with the upcoming MTA takeover things will improve. The B100 is almost redundant, as the B2 follows almost the same route a block away up until Kings Plaza. All they'd have to do is turn the B2 onto Avenue T and meet the current B100 route and continue to the B100 terminus. That means Kings Plaza folks would have to walk an extra block, but personally I don't think that's anywhere near as inconvenient as having to walk from KP all the way to Mill Basin.
David
I have had the exact same experience many times. I'd come out the Quentin Rd/E 16th exit about one or two minutes before the hour to see the bus dead ahead, already on E 17 or E 18th. I've ran after it several times hoping for "the miracle at Ocean" and I've pulled it off (I'm very thin and fast), but I only do that if it just misses the light at Ocean, so usually I miss it. Funny how we think alike though.
Perhaps a phone call to Command Headquarters is in my near future....
And a 1 hour headway before midnight is ridiculous
The B2 and B100 soul perpose is a subway commuter line
Yes I totally agree, some sort of method of alerting the bus driver that a train is arriving would be perfect. If the B100 riders were polled, I doubt many of them would complain about a bus leaving, say, 2-3 minutes late. At that time of night, since it's an hour before it must leave that stop again, it would not make a dent in the longterm schedule.
You don't know how many times when the train arrives at 8:58 that I wish I could call the bus driver and let him know that he'd have at least 20 extra passengers if he'd just wait. Having a bus leave 2 minutes early with only 10 passengers instead of leaving on time with around double the number just strikes me as retarded.
Da Hui
Is it an express train or a local train
the command service hooks up with a express train
the light is to keep the bus operator honest.
Thiere are a number of BO on the B3 who do what ever they can to pull out before the riders from the arrving train can reach thier door
Riders such as myself who need the b3 kings plaza bound must cross ave u inorder to get the bus(the dedicated exit on the south side of ave u was closed in the early 1990's, prior tp that they had and employee watch the gate, all that was needed was an iron ,adian to be installed)
Da Hui
David
I live over by the Key Food Plaza on Avenue U. Yes, the B3 goes there as well, and when the B arrives at Kings Highway at 8:58 lately I decide not to risk it and wait an extra 10 mins for a connecting Q to Avenue U, since the Command Bus driver is unreliable these days. But that still adds a good 25 mins to my commute since the B3 schedule is unreliable (but definitely less than an hour wait!). But once again all that would not be necessary if the driver did not leave early.
I'm one of the luckier ones - but what about someone who lives on National Drive? Walking all the way down there from Avenue U is not really a viable option. That's why I wish the B2 and B100 were merged into one.
2) The MTA takeover is on life support. Don't depend on it because it may not happen before service cuts in both systems. As it stands now, the MTA will not be in a position to operate both its own system and the NYCDOT system at full strength.
And I'm always standing at the end of the 3rd car of the B train as it arrives at Kings Highway, which opens right in front of the stairway for the Quentin Road entrance. I make a mad dash down the steps for that bus, so I know it isn't taking me 2+ minutes to do it, 30 seconds at most. And as I'm watching the damn bus peel away right in front of me, I make sure to check my ipod for the correct time. Sure enough, it's still 8:58.
Doesn't it sound silly that both companies are on 2 different time sysems? There's only one 'real' time. The MTA seems to be in tune with the correct time in our reality, since as I mentioned my ipod is ultimately synced with a time server, which usually gets its results from a nuclear clock, which is supposed to be in time with 'real' time.
I do believe what you are saying though, since one time an elderly man was on the receiving end of my predicament (I got lucky that day), and the bus started pulling away, early as usual, and he started to walk quickly after it. Lucky for him the driver spotted him and stopped as he was turning onto Quentin. But the old man sure gave the driver an earful about how he's leaving early. The driver's defense was that his clock said 9PM. So this might all boil down to Command's time being 2 minutes shy of reality, which is very dumb. Like another poster correctly put it, the B100 exists pretty much only to serve Brighton Line riders headed for Mill Basin. So I feel it would behoove Command to make a little extra effort to pick up as many of them as feasible, even it it means leaving 2-3 minutes late. With such a poor turnaround at that time, it would not cause the returning bus to leave late. He's probably spending 15-20 twiddling his thumbs at national Drive, as I see them do when they arrive at 8:45 at Kings highway.
Command gets payment regardless of how many people ride as long as they follow the NYCDOT schedule. In this case, they are despite your valid concerns and on Command's express runs, they leave exactly when the clock strikes the departure time and it works for the people on the bus. The schedule of the B train fluctuates too and the NYCDOT wants a stable departure time.
I wish you many early trains, but Command is following the rules and the schedule won't be changed. Bus companies don't like tinkering with schedules because you create an issue down the line.
I'm not the only one who's gotten bitten by this bug, so I don't think this is just my imagination.
Not a wise move on the old man's part. Next time the driver saw him in the same situation, I doubt the old man would have the opportunity to give the B/O an earfull. And it would serve him right, too.
Let's see how long this will take.
David
What about motorcoaches though? Everyone likes a good high tour bus.
Chuck Greene
This is precisely why many transit companies converted to all-bus systems in the 1940s; shortly after WWII, the fear of another attack was fresh on the minds of Americans. If another 9/11 happened, the bus would surely surpass the rail for evacuation purposes; there would be no lineside apparatus for the terrorists to pinpoint.
-F.
That doesn't make any sense in a macro view. Bombings, hurricanes, etc, the roads clog, the rails still move. We didn't invent the magic bus that bypasses traffic yet.
Chuck Greene
Japanese vehicles are unfit for american roads too, who makes a car without a "flash to pass" function?
What does that have to do with what I was talking about initially?
If you meant coaches also.....well.....I'm sorry....but not. Buses like Eagles and Scenicruisers were absolute beauties.
....but still restricted to the same types of routes a big rig is restricted too. and tracks or no tracks, in exurbia where there's usually one road from a to b, or two roads, any little thing will trap that bus and all the cars with it.
If you have a skilled operator, then your buses re-routes are endless.
I can recall being rerouted while doing a northbound 9 Central Nyack trip. Because my non-driving co-workers had no idea they could fit a bus down X-amount of blocks, the 4 9 and 9As in front of me which was all my leaders(of which 1 left 2 hours in front of me and 1 left 1 hour in front of me), BECAME my followers!!!!!!
Teach your operators how to drive, and you'll never have a problem. I self taught myself how to drive a bus!
Regards,
Trevor Logan
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Although I had driven buses before under supervision, I was very nervous. My better half said "Don't worry, you'll do fine!", and I got through it with no problems. Once the furniture was moved, we had 15 minutes to make reservations, leaving NO time to drop off the bus and get my car. So we bit the bullet and rolled up to dinner in style! Later on, the Saturday Night Disco Party came on the radio, and she started dancing around in the aisles as I drove back to the storage. "Ring My Bell" by Anita Ward came on...very fitting as this is her favorite "toy" in the bus...ringing the "Stop Requested" bell!
I have had formal training before, but couldn't totally get a feel for the bus at that time as I felt very pressured. Guess I just learn things better on my own!
-F.
-F.
Are you stupid? Why express your anti-bus on a board thats 98% pro-bus, Eh? Use some common sense here. Well you know what? Trolleys are the most inefficient thing there is. They're restricted to only where the tracks lead them and they can go nowhere else besides the tracks. If theres another vehicle sitting on the track, theres no way to manuever a trolley around the obsticle besides derailing it. And even that would fuck up the entire line with all the other trolleys having no possible detour routing to take around the incident. Trolleys are the worst vehicles made, they are a hideous eyesores. I would never ever ride a trolley even if it was the only mode of transportation out there, I would rather walk 20+ miles than to support a mode of transit I do not like. I say we tear up and burn all the trolleys and it's infrastructure and bring back the buses!!!
;-)
The problem with blockages on the track can really be solved by cities actually ENFORCING traffic laws. As well as situations where track obstructions cannot be avoided [accidents, police, fire activity], then it takes good and responsive management to keep the line [or lines] moving. The same thing can happen on bus lines too, so do not criticize trolleys because of their tracks.
Well... seeing as this is BusTalk you're probably right.
If people can eat whole subs after cracking up over those freaky things, then surely a bus ride wouldn't be a hard sell.
-F.
-F.
-F.
-F.
Ho-Ho-Kus is a town in Bergen County, NJ along the NJT Line to Suffern. It has nothing to do with Hoboken. However, it is one of the best town names in the world.
Now tell me, does this look ugly to you? That is perhaps the most modern looking bus in NYCT. Plus, as others have said, buses have more flexibility. And if you think buses are crap because diesel buses exhaust dirty air, well that's kinda strange considering nearly 90% of USA buses (IINM) either have filtered diesel engines or are CNG, LNG, or HEV powered. And if you think this is low class, consider this: WE CAN'T HAVE HIGHLY LUXURIOUS INTERIORS IN NYCT. THERE ARE VANDALS IN NYC.
Now if that won't persuade you, take a closer look. Now do you see the beauty of a bus? Please tell me what you think is wrong with buses. I'd really like to know. Otherwise, well lemme just say your posts really bug me. If these pix don't persuade you, take a tranquilizer already. Alright? Thank you for respecting buses.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Chris
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Chris
Rail people (who don't like buses) just don't see buses the way that we do. They see them as "the lowest form of transportation - for the poor folks" and as dirty vehicles, partly because of the preceeding TA's and the conditions of those buses. The trains are usually faster, quieter, and nicer than a bus (compare a brand new train to a brand new bus). Honestly, and I don't mean to offend any rail fans, from my experiences with non-transit enthusiasts, anyone can be a rail fan, but it takes a true love of transit to be a bus fan (for busfans usually have some sort of interest in rail too). That's just my opinion anyway. I've literally recieved "ew" when talking about buses, lol.
~Transit enthusiasts - we're a rare breed!
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Da Hui
I appreciate the fact that you like trolleys; they were a classic in their own right. But if you hate buses so much, then WHY are you here? Your message is the equivalent of a Republican showing up at the Democratic National Convention and going to the podium, ranting about how we should blow away every last Democrat living. That makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine!!!
-F.
Meanwhile, their Allison division is trying to push hybrid electric drives to transit companies, and they are curently passing off a Gillig Advantage as a "GM Electric Bus" as their demo. They even have DVDs of their test results at King County Metro in Seattle.
On another note, GM also tried to run a monopoly on the V-drive setup through the 1960s. Flxible wanted to adapt this to their New Look buses at the time, but with no dice. Eventually they took General Motors to court and won their cause. As a result, all Flxibles after 1967 were V-drive buses, while earlier models were T-drive. The irony is that a lot of TAs today prefer T-drive buses as they are easier maintenance; this is why you see a lot of orders for Gilligs.
-F.
-F.
I believe that the Opus uses that too - easy to take out the engine and whatnot (I'm not sure if I'm talking about the right thing).
Service alteration:
Splish Splash Water Park now only limited service during months it is open
New services comming:
I'm working on 5 new local(LIB type) bus routes for eastern nassau and western suffolk. They travel north south between Bayville and Jones Beach as well as to places like Huntington, Farmingdale, and Sunrise Mall.
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There was traffic on Saturday afternoon in Queens and get this, on the LIE, I saw a sign that said, "Construction on the Throgs Neck Bridge...use caution." So, I figure let's take the Whitestone Bridge instead. As it turned out, it was the WHITESTONE Bridge under construction and not the Throgs Neck! Damn DOT! Anyways, saw some buses like Orion 05.501 #111 on the Q15. Saw a Q44 LIMITED waiting to get across the Whitestone Bridge (there was so much traffic, the driver was actually smoking a cigarette OUTSIDE THE BUS! As we got on the Grand Central Pkwy and passed by LaGuardia Airport, I spotted Orion 05.501 #675 on the Q48, saw an ex-NYCT bus (now Triboro) in the airport. Passed by the Triboro Coach Corporation Depot (Lack of it) and proceeded to the Triborough Bridge. Coming back to Queens, I saw Orion 07.501 Hybrid #6375 on what else, the M60 and Orion 05.501 #6006 on the M60 to Manhattan. As we went into the Bronx, I spotted two Orion 07.501 Hybrids. First on was crossing over the Major Deegan Expwy at 138th St in service with Orange Destination Signs. As we passed Mott haven, I saw Orion 07.501 CNG #7758 on the Bx21 as well. As we crossed over the Harlem River on the 145th St Bridge (Notice the route we took to get to the George Washington Bridge...too much NYC traffic), I spotted Orion 07.501 Hybrid #6390 on the M7 and New Flyer D60HF #1017 on the M102. Who said the Bx19 was not artic? New Flyer D60HF #1095, #1097, #1101, #1105 were on the Bx19. As we turned ever so slowly onto Frederick Douglass Blvd (8th Av) I spotted NovaBus RTS-06 #9636, #9507 (side destination sign raised) and #5201 on the M10 going back to Midtown. From there, we took the Harlem River Drive north to the Cross Bronx Expwy and then to the George Washington Bridge.
In New Jersey, it was great but too much traffic as there were construction projects ON A SATURDAY? Anyways, I saw a bunch of NJT MCI D4000s and D4500s (most on the NJ139 and NJ319...all others were Not In Serivce). By the way, is it against the law to pump your own gas? Apparently, you are NOT allowed to pump your own gas in New Jersey especially at rest stops along the New Jersey Turnpike (I-95).
Along the way, I saw Delaware's NABI 40LF #560 on the route #33. I don't know. In Virginia, my hotel was right next to the I-95/495 exit 176B in Alexandria. I saw DASH buses as my hotel was on Eisenhower Av...yep, next to the METRO station (yellow line) and I could see the blue line as well as "MARC". Even a few freight trains along the way. Anyways, I saw Orion 05.503 #59 on AT 2 on Sunday (I got there too late to see anything on Saturday). On Monday morning, I got up at 6 AM to see the buses but I forgot something...MY CAMERA!!! I saw DASH buses #63, #67, #73-74 on either the AT 2 or AT 7. A bunch of METRO trains on the yellow line (they use SIX cars while NYCTA uses eight...BUT METRO's cars are longer. I have even seen a METRO train with FOUR cars!). Also, something that I haven't seen since my days of living in Queens near the Grand Central Pkwy (Jamaica Hills), I have seen WMATA Metrobuses "Flying" down I-95/495 southbound and ALL of the buses I saw were Flxible Metro-B 40102s #9301-9480 series. Buses #9315 and #9443 were in the OLD livery while buses #9398, #9413, #9421, #9427-9428, #9444, #9447 were in the NEW livery. Also, Orion 05.501 #4320 was sporting a Orange Destination sign. Going home I saw Orion 05.501 #4259 heading southbound also. Are there any Fairfax bus routes in the area? I saw Orion 05.501 #7859? on the #110 route going north on route #241. Another FFC Orion 05.501 with Orange Signs made a turnaround in the Eisenhower Ave area. Some streets that I was on were West Braddock Av that has the #28A route from Metrobus along with DASH AT 3 and 4 routes. At Andrews Air Force Base, I saw Orion 06.501 Low Floor #2097 on the K12 route. I think I got everything. Please ask any questions because I like what I saw.
Enjoy!
Yes, construction on a Saturday. Would you prefer they do it during rush hour?
It is against New Jersey state law to pump your own gas. That applies both on the turnpike and elsewhere in the state. I believe it is illegal for you to get out of the car while next to the pump though I wonder how many people are actually warned/ticketed/summonsed for this, but if you want to stretch or use the bathroom, park somewhere else on the gas station property and then get out of your car.
MARC runs in Maryland, you saw the CSX/NS tracks that Virginia Railway Express uses.
Our trains are 75 feet long, just like the R44s, R46s, R68s, and R68As in New York. A full length WMATA train would be just as long as a full length train on the NYCT B-Division (10 60 foot cars or 8 75 foot cars). IRT cars are 51 feet (full length train is 510 feet except on the 7 line).
Glad you enjoyed your stay in the DC area.
Yes, it would be nice to do construction during rush hour. They do it in New York.
Thanks for the rest of the information!
Self-service gas stations are ILLEGAL in New Jersey. The law was passed to preserve service-station jobs [the primary reason], and convenience of customers [mostly unstated], and to slap the face of the oil companies.
Chuck Greene
1) Robinson Coach #126 - Orion I
2) Prairie Traiways #414 - some sort of MCI Coach
3) Didn't see who it belonged to, but it appeared to be an older style MCI coach that had a transit style rear door.
Thanks,
Mike
Or #127, for that matter. Wild guess is it's an ex-Pace unit.
I also saw an RTS (yes, a real RTS, not a WFD) downtown, white with a green stripe, no operator name, fleet number 1.
There was also a Staten Island issue, but a friend of mine borrowed it; will give date upon its return.
Also there was an issue on Green Lines a few years ago.
Related to this, there is a new 112-page book on the Rockaway Trolley / Ocean Electric Railway, the line that ran both on the Long Island Rail Road and on the streets to Neponsit. This was a predecessor of today's Green Lines Q22. If anyone is interested in obtaining this beautiful book (only 500 copies printed), by noted traction author Vincent Seyfried, please e-mail me privately: Trolleyworks@AOL.com.
FYI
Probably. Limiteds are always popular, whether or not there is any real time savings.
[That means a little bit more extra time, huh?]
In some cases, the Limited running time already equals or exceeds the local running time.
But there's a bigger issue, too.... Yes, everybody wants Limiteds to serve their stops. However, if every stop gets Limited service, then nobody gets Limited service because all those Limiteds are now locals!
JD
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Also, on a related not, we'd been discussing the possibility of this district on SubTalk. As you may or may not know (and probably do if you're a Philly fan), Callowhill is the stomping ground of Route 10 (The Overbrook Subway-Surface trolley) and Route 15 (the Girard Avenue... whatever...). Well you may also know, SEPTA's jumping of the gun had the 10 running as a bus and no 15 trolley service, thanks to some... people living, driving, and parking on 59th Street where the pull-out tracks are. The 10 is back in Elmwood for the time being. Were Callowhill relocated, they'd need new trackage to get there.
So, THAT got me thinking... aside from some new deadhead tracks, what would be overall more convenient? The 64's new extension would put it right at Parkside's doors... So Southern can get their hands off half of it, and maybe half of the G as well, since the depot and property would probably be about as big as Frankford, or a bit larger... so there might be less problems with both trolleys there AND the entire stable of buses Callowhill has and once had (excluding the 63 and 76, of course). So I've done a comparison of convenience related to deadhead runs, and I'd like some input from the other BusTalkers. Callowhill's stable right now has the 15, 21, 30, 31, 38, 40, 42, 43, 44, 46, 52, 65, and 121. It once held the G, 10 and 64 (as well as the now done in 63, 76, and 85), and occupies the block created by 58th, 59th, Vine, and Callowhill Streets. The depot at Parkside would be slightly behind the bus loop at 49th Street & Parkside Avenue.
So looking at deadhead distance and time...
G: Northbound route is but a block away, two blocks for southbound. However, should a trip deadhead to Overbrook, it's a little farther from here to Lancaster Avenue alone, to say nothing of getting to Overbrook Station. Advantage: Parkside
10: Let's ignore the costs associated with laying tracks and stringing up wire for Parkside for now. Point of origin is 63rd & Malvern. Advantage: With Parkside access, line would need to run either along 52nd Street to Lancaster/Lansdowne, or along Parkside to Belmont to Girard to Lancaster. Advantage: Callowhill.
15: Point of origin would be either 63rd & Girard or 63rd & Malvern. However, track and wire along Parkside Ave. would feed directly to/from the line, keeping it from interfering with the 10, as neither trolley would share common intersecting layover/deadhead route points. Trips could start/end at 41st Street. Callowhill, however, eliminats the need for short trips. Tied.
21: Originates at either 61st & Pine or 69th Street Terminal. Advantage: Callowhill
30: Doesn't even go NEAR Parkside Avenue. Originates at 69th Street Terminal or 40th & Market, and runs in a frequency that no one would call "frequent", so it ties up things not often at all. Haverford Avenue and Vine Street are a part of it's route and VERY close to Callowhill District. Advantage: Callowhill
31: Routing carries it close to both. Can simply take Haverford Avenue to access City Avenue origin. Advantage: Callowhill.
38: Route operates close to the Zoo, and also along Belmont Avenue Once terminated at 49th & Parkside Loop, during the time of the terminus at St Asaphs & Conshohocken State Roads. Advantage: Parkside.
40: ORIGINAL terminus, before the axe of Route 85, was right at the loop, and still some trips originate here (few if any terminate, and they're late at night). Closer to Ford & Monument Roads origin. Advantage: Parkside.
42: As with the 21, point of origin is 6ist & Pine. Or Wycombe (didn't the 21 once terminate there? Yes.). Advantage: Callowhill.
43: The route's terminus is right at Parkisde's front door. Advantage: Parkside.
44: Tricky one. The line could snake it's way to City Avenue easily from Callowhill. However, Parkside offers closer access to 54th Street, which leads to point of short-origin/termination (54th & City), and feeds into main rotuing to Ardmore origin. Advantage: Parkside.
46: 60th Street is but a block from 59th Street and the depot, and both ends are easily accessed in a straight line from the main route. Advantage: Callowhill.
52: Current routing has half the weekday trips end at 49th & Parkside, and as with the 44, the new depot offers a close access to 54th & City. The depot could also eliminate deadheads to Woodland Avenue by starting them as trips from 49th & Parkside. Advantage: Parkside.
64: The revised routing takes it deeper into Parkside/Callowhill territory, and it ends at the depot's front door. No need for deadheads to Pier 70 (which are probably Southern's problem anyway). Advantage: Parkside
65: Origin is at 69th Street Terminal. Unless deaheads are added to/from 54th & City, Parkside would be remote. However again, Allegheny seems to have more control over the 65 anyway, so it'd probably not matter much. But by logic, Advantage: Callowhill.
121: As with the 44, this route can easily access its main street (Conshohocken State Road) from Parkside more easily than from Callowhill, allowing for faster deadheads to Gladwyne fo the start of service. However, I'm not sure where the extras go in the midday, but Parkside is also closer to I-76, for those deadheads to City Hall or 5th & Market (assuming those "deadheads" aren't actually trips in service on the 44). Advantage: Parkside.
That's 8 advantages to Callowhill, and 9 for Parkside (I'm counting the tie with the 15 as a point for each). Close, but the relocation of Callowhill's operations to Parkside would be SLIGHTLY better than to just keep Callowhill as it is.
So, I'd like some BusTalker input on this matter. Please? Thank you in advance.
For the route 65 it's best to keep it split between Callowhill and Allegany some runs on the 65 needs artics while other runs don't need it...
44: Tricky one. The line could snake it's way to City Avenue easily from Callowhill. However, Parkside offers closer access to 54th Street, which leads to point of short-origin/termination (54th & City), and feeds into main rotuing to Ardmore origin. Advantage: Parkside.
The 44 drivers could use a very easy deadhead route the drivers from 54th and city could take city ave down to 53rd street and right on Overbrook ave and left on 54th on the way down to the depot however a few people around that area may be complaining about all the buses coming from deadheads on the 52 and 44.
43: The route's terminus is right at Parkisde's front door. Advantage: Parkside.
Pretty much right on target there the only thing is that the 43 could kept going straight on deadheads instead of turning up the parkside loop.
Similarly, if building at 49th Street... they'd need a connecting track segment between Parkside and Girard along Belmont (or straight down 41st Street) to get the 10 back to Lancaster Avenue without disrupting 52nd Street, as well as tracks along Parkside westboud from 41st to the depot, and eastbound from the depot to Girard. SEPTA could probably add in runs on the 15 to Parkside Loop for their pull-in trips... maybe lay tracks specifically for turnback as well.
On a slightly less positive note, though... in theory, I think Parkside District would become the next Midvale... but MAYBE this time, SEPTA will keep some polish, operation, and ownership on the predecessor. As rail only, Callowhill could get the 10, 15, and 23. They ALL run all night, so that genrally translates to high frequency during the day... so there would be a need for a good number of trolleys, and some extra trolley bays...
Saw 9276 (Soft Seater, Express Seat Configuration) Coach from Jamaica Depot running on the Q44 last night - around 4:45 into the Bronx, and 6:00 back to Flushing.
Not a rarity to see a Jamaica bus on the 44, but it is a rarity to see a Suburban bus on the Q44 line - it looked crowded when it pulled into Roosevelt Avenue.
I am sure the Passengers were surprised.
Thanks,
flx7595
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
Here's the original...
..and here's a (fake) Artic about to jackknife. Emergency flashers running amok, blinkers and kneeler lamp flashing, clearance lamps even brighter, and there's the retarder indicator.
Whaddaya think?
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Like the new signature?
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
...photoshopped.
I made an error over on SubTalk, THIS is actually my last post 'till AM when the quotas are reset. :-/
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Da Hui
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
You wouldn't be approaching your post quota all the time if you didn't waste it on something like this.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Wastes a post on a topic and message that is plain, lemme say it again...
SAS
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Seriously, this is getting stupid. Bustalk is just going down the shitter...
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
For example, the other day in the Bronx, I saw in the distance an Orion VII on the Bx36. It had orange LED signs, but it had only one, non-alternating message with two tiny lines of words. From a distance, I could make out the route number just fine, but the rest of the message was just an orange blur! I couldn't even SEE the bus's destination until it was less than a block away! Those two tiny lines of words on top of each other just blend in too damn much.
Now, what moron would program the sign like that, instead of taking full advantage of the LED clarity, and making the words as big as possible? Look at the first original picture that Ben posted in this thread. The word "CROSSTOWN" is a nice size, but it could've been bigger....there's plenty of room. And in the second unaltered pic, you see another sign with two tiny lines.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
These are all my pix.
This is the interior of #5728.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
I gotta say the FONT SIZE need to be a little bigger before somebody from the ADA starts to complain. How in the heck do u expect people, expecially those with bad eyesights, to read the signs. Even i can do a better job than that
Of course, their other buses use either flipdots (Neos and NABIs) or green LEDS (El Dorados and Neo artics), and have bi-level display in front (when applicable), with a thinner side sign that just alternates the messages... I actually prefer it that way.
I also would appreciate it if SEPTA would take their New Flyers, and SLOW THE SIGNS DOWN... they cycle through the displays too fast, except for the 5400 series.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
I wish you hadn't. Really.
Jim D.
-Chris
Q58 school trippers run from somewhere south of Corona to the Junction Blvd subway station and they operate NOT from Fresh Pond, but from Stengel.
Q58 JUNCTION BL
SAS
I'm not sure about the Q58 Tripper info, but you did guess Junction Blvd & Roosevelt Avenue as the location for this picture. The bus was headed north on Junction, through the intersection with Roosevelt, at some time between 1 and 2 in the afternoon.
lol
SAS
Next picture please.
What the heck is an NYCT bus doing on a Triboro ROACH route?
I dont know I can just say its somewhere on Roosevelt Av
Da Hui
-Chris
-F.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Speaking of the RTS, I (among others) wonder if NYCTA will buy more of them now that they are back in production....
-F.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2486384778&category=6728&sspagename=WDVW
It is a 1983 model (fleet no. 178) and is one of the first Metros ever made. The bus looks to be in good shape overall. NOTE: I am in no way connected with the seller, just passing along the news.
-F.
I saw a hartline flx yesterday, had a real screen door up front, and sheetmetal covering the windows. I dont' know wht the deal was.
-F.
B1-#9103-NOVABUS
B3-#9240-NOVABUS
David
David
David
BIG AL
David
Let me know your answers and theories.
Mine are people who press the tape when it isn't their stop and also packed buses that get so packed, they cross the white line.
When someone is running late for the bus and the driver waits for him/her, and the person is WALKING to the bus (if I were the driver, I'd just drive off and leave them - that if, if I feel the person has the ability to run or at least look as if they are in haste). What irks me the most is when the driver does the passenger a favor such as that and the passenger doesn't even say thank you!
Chuck Greene
Being nice can also build relationships, even if they are professional business relationships.
But I also have some things that have my good side: (1) The Michael J. Quill bus depot. (2) The late 2003-early 2004 Artix (for NYCT). (3) The 126 Street bus depot. (4) The West Farms bus depot. I could go on forevor. ;-)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
2. Using the front door exit...and turn around and walk the other direction, when you could've used the rear door exit that you passed by on the sidewalk.
3. One jerk having 10 or more Metrocards and using the bus farebox as a Metrocard reader.
People who have zero management experience in the real world, yet amazingly know exactly how complex urban transportation systems should be run. I just don't understand how it is that these folks know how to organize and manage thousands of workers, see to it that millions of annual customers receive the appropriate levels of service, and can balance budgets in the hundreds of millions of dollars, and yet fail to use these valuable skills to make a comfortable living for themselves in an industry they obviously care so much about.
JD
As another poster stated, do us all a favor and do some real investigative and accurate reporting instead of sitting back and looking up boards like this on a search engine, to spoon information from people for the sole purpose of twisting it around and reporting more negative propaganda about New York City Transit and it's work force. Your presence on this board is not welcome by myself and probably the bulk of the dedicated NYCT personnel who post here.
BIG AL
(NYCT worker)
What? That isn't an annoyance, that's a safety hazard, that happens each and every day.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
I havent been able to meet my Spirits of Vengeance quota lately...
people have been behaving themselves.....and IM pissed off about it!
No souls to FRY!
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
It gets brought up on BusTalk at least once a week. Don't tell me you've missed every thread about it over the last year, and/or you didn't bother to search the archives?!?! Shame shame shame on you.
Shame, shame on me for not riding this bus (as I was supposed to earlier this year.). I will get around to it, trust me.
Westside Sector changes :
Line 2/302
Extend the shortline from Sunset-Fairfax to San Vicente-Santa Monica
Line 217
Reduce service on line 217. Shorten route to Hollywood-Vine Station
RapidBus Line 787 Pasadena City College-Hollywood-West LA
This new Rapid line will travel from Pasadena City College to West LA Transit Ctr.
=====================================================================
San Gabriel Valley Sector changes:
Line 170 ( Cal State LA-Montebello Towne Ctr-El Monte )
Split route into 2 seperate routes ... dont ask me why
Line 670 between Cal State-Montebello
Line 671 between Montebello-El Monte
Line 180/181/380 Hollywood-Los Feliz-Glendale-Pasadena-Sierra Madre Sta
Cancel line 181.Cancel Line 380 LIMITED. Alternate between Pasadena and Sierra Madre Station is available via Foothill Transit lines 187/189. Alternate service between Pasadena-Hollywood will be provided by lines 180 and new Rapid Line 787.
Line 85 Downtown LA-Glendale College
Cancel line. Alternate service will be provided by line 84 and new line 685 shuttle.
Line 267 El Monte-Pasadena-Altadena
cancel segment of line 276 on Sunset Blvd between Huntington Dr and Rosemead Blvd. Reroute Line 276 to operate via Huntington Drive, and then Rosemead Blvd in the city of Santa Anita
Line 487 Los Angeles-Anhambra-Sierra Madre EXPRESS
Extend Line 487 to operate from Sierra Madre to El Monte, which will replace Line 491 on Santa Anita Av
Line 491 Los Angeles-El Monte-Santa Anota EXPRESS
Cancel line 491. see line 487 proposal
Alternate service between El Monte and Downtown LA is available via MTA Lines 484, 490 & Foothill Transit # 480, 481, 482, 486, 488, and 492
===================================================================
Gateway cities sector
Line 108/358 Slauson Ave
Straighten the route to continue on Slauson Ave between Pacific Av and Miles Ave
Line 254 Imperial Station-Huntington Park-East LA-County Hospital
Reroute line in Huntington Park
Line 265-275 Pico Rivera-Norwalk-Lakewood/Cerritos
Reroute line to operate on segments of line 270 that will be rerouted. Also add weekend service on line 265.
Line 270 Monrovia-El Monte-Whittier-Norwalk
Reroute line 270 in Whittier, Santa Fe Springs, and Norwalk. Also reroute line to Norwalk/Santa Fe Springs Metrolink Station
Line 362 Downtown LA-Commerce-Norwalk-Hawaiian Gardens LIMITED
More limited stops along the Telegraph Blvd corridor to speed up travel time. Reroute service in Norwalk to serve the Norwalk./Santa Fe Springs Metrolink Station
====================================================================
South Bay sector changes
Line 40/340 Los Angeles-Inglewood-Hawthorne-Redondo Bch
Cancel line 340 limited. New RapidBus line 740 will run from Union Sta to South Bay Galleria
Line
Anyone ever been to Salt Lake and have anymore info on the buses? I know it aint much of a city, the tallest 'scraper is only the 26 story Wells Fargo Building.
David
Da Hui
Da Hui
BTW, before trashing their roster - could you do any better? Somehow I doubt it.
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
Nice Chinabus at Madison Square Park.
??????
The photos are labeled with the date they were taken and none of the Battery Park photos have yesterday's date....
I'm not sure if the painting is available for online display, but it is truly an awesome work af art. The Orion looks as if it is ready to drive off the canvas!
-F.
It wasn't visible in the PM (perhaps returned to the depot) but did spot a GBL RTS and an Orion V there. Also saw a MCI coach from Wells and Wells (a small charter operator in Suffolk).
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
BIG AL
* ryan
Enjoy your trip to NYC!
Manhattan
M14,M15, M23, M79, M86,M101/102/103
Rush hours- M31, M35, M116
Bronx: Bx 1/2, 4, 5, 12, 19 (sometimes), 40/42, 41, 55, and you would not be on one of these Artics, most come from the infamous Gun Hell and Kingarbage Depots.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/08/06/tennessee.crash/index.html
OK - The way I see it is... it's an accident which of course is unfortunate. If you're saying they suck because one of their buses was involved in an accident then... I guess Greyhound and all of the others suck too.
Sad.
CG
Could the driver have been distracted by a passenger?
Could the driver have been inattentive?
Could there have been a mechanical problem with the bus ?
Moral of the story---Don't jump to conclusions until the investigation and inquiry is over.
The driver FELL ASLEEP.
I will say the same thing back to you, if one of the dead victims was someone you knew or a relative. You really are a self-serving bastard, what about the victims of the crash? Got no remorse for them? Is your blood THAT thin?
Who would ride? LOL
i'm distracted by the spider on my screen so thats all for now?
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
I'm curious if someone like Sid from NJ could solve this? Wonder if this is a stitched together rollsign or a one-piece?
On another note, for Flxible and Neo artic action, which is the better one to try: NJ Transit or Bee Line? I've heard that Bee Line's are in better shape, but is it worth the trip from Midtown to The Bronx? I've never done either system, so any input is requested.
Thanks for any help!
In Brooklyn u can check the B61
On the same routes, I hate to sound like a yokel in asking this, but how safe are the routes running out of JG? Brooklyn is probably the borough I'm least familiar with, I'd be there mainly for the JG routes and the Transit Museum and I have some reservations about some parts of Brooklyn. Any input is appreciated.
As for my Queens,SI,Manhattan,and Bronx Layouts they will be updated
year Built / Bus Type / remaining lifespan / end of their lifespan.
1990 / TMC RTS-06 / 0 years remaining / it was supposed be 2003 but almost all 1990 TMC RTS was repowered by NYCT.
1993 / TMC RTS-06 / 1 year remaining / 2006
1994 / TMC RTS-06 / 2 years remaining / 2007
1995-1996 / Nova RTS-06 / 4 years remaining / 2009
1998 / Nova RTS-06 / 6 years remaining / 2011
1999 / Nova RTS-06 / 7 years remaining / 2012
2003-2004 / Orion VII CNG / 12 years remaining / 2027
2004 / Orion VII HEV / 12 years remaining / 2027
-Adam
(fishbowl6v92ta@aol.com)
But that's a rough guess.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
David
You can check out AC Transit's rosters by cliking on this hyperlink and then scrolling down.
http://http://www.actransit.org/aboutac/ridershipbusfleet.wu
Current fleet roster by divisions as of today....
Division 2 in Emeryville:
1034-1042 9 2003 VanHool A330
1061-1110(-4) 46 2004 Vanhool A330
2705-2732 (-4) 24 1991 Gillig 30102TB Phantom
2902-2930 29 1997 NABI 416
3034-3047 14 1998 NABI 416
3101-3106 6 1998 NABI 416
3141-3166 26
6006-6009 4 2000 MCI 102DL-3
Total buses 158
Division 3 in Richmond:
1004-1028 25 2003 VanHool A330
1901-1922 22 1996 New Flyer D60
3001-3019 19 1998 NABI 416
4070-4076 7 2003 NABI 40LFW
6001-6005 5 2000 MCI 102DL-3
6034-6052 19 2000/03 MCI 102DL-3
7202-7213,7215 13 2000 NABI 40LFW
7217-7220,7223 4
Total buses 115
Divison 4 in Oakland:
2012-2024 13 2003 VanHool AG300
2041-2044 4 2004 VanHool AG300
2703-2704 2 1991 Gillig 30102TB Phantom
2801-2860 (-7) 53 1993 Gillig 40102TB Phantom
2931-2947 17 1997 NABI 416
3048-3067(-1) 19 1998 NABI 416
3108-3140 34 1998 NABI 416
4051-4069 19 2003 NABI 40LFW
6010-6033 (-1) 23 2000 MCI 102DL-3
6053-6057 5 2003 MCI 102DL-3
7214,7216,7221,7222 4 2000 NABI 40LFW
Total buses 179
Division 6 in Hayward:
1029-1033 5 2003 VanHool A330
1043-1060 18 2004 VanHool A330
1923-1930 8 1996 New Flyer D60
2003-2011 9 2003 VanHool AG300
2025-2040 16 2003/04
2701-2702 2 1991 Gillig 30102TB Phantom
2733-2761 (-4) 25 1991 Gillig
2948-2971 24 1997 NABI 416
3020-3033 14 1998 NABI 416
4002-4021 20 2000 NABI 40LFW
4077-4090 14 2003 NABI 40LFW
6058-6079 22 2003 MCI D4500
Total buses 177
Prototype or pilot buses use for the Training Dept:
1001 VanHool A330 prototype
2001 VanHool AG330 prototype
2601 1990 Gillig Phantom
4001 2000 NABI 40LFW
7201 2000 NABI 40LFW
Note on AC Transit's VanHool AG300's "articulates":
So far, bus numbers 2044-2057 are yet to be deliver. When deliverd, they will go to Division 4 in Oakland to replace some 2800 series Gillig phantoms.
-F.
If anyone is curious about why I care: I tend to ride the Q85 out of Jam. several times everyday. I would be nice if I could instead do so on *any* Orion Bus as I find the RTS too unstable [for reading]. The zero gravity one experiences on sharp, fast turns as the bus tilts to the left or right is not pleasant [to me]. Not that I expect (or hope) the MTA to / will make changes for that sole reason, but I wouldn't mind.
Interesting and fun trip!
Chuck Greene
Chuck Greene
In effect, bus drivers seem to get all the dirt dumped onto them without any recognition (while train engineers/conductors get all the luxury and all the recognition).
That's just my point of view anyway...
#113.#126,#231,#235,#239,#244,#274,#289,#293,#299,#305,#360,#394,#660(which had MSBA and MTA-LIBUS labels),#662.
Here are the other LIBUS i saw:
#116,#124,#129,#297(going to Jones Beach with passengers),#665.
Also,does Rockville centre Depot have any of the #400's? Tuesday will be N6 to N54. I'll post what i see.
B1-#9235-NOVABUS
Q40-#5518-Orion V
N4-#222-Orion V CNG
N19-#237-Orion V CNG
N51-#312-Orion V CNG
Season 1: Equipment
Season 2: Subway and Commuter Rail Stations
Season 3: Jobs and Employees
I (really) AWTP.
WE NEED A REAL TRANSIT SHOW, YOU STUPID TRANSIT TRANSIT PRODUCERS!!!!!!!!!!!
That rant and that ventilating felt good.
-Ben Diamond (a.k.a. 4traintowoodlawn)
Plenty of times. When I first started watching the show (July 2001; I remember mentions of the Manhattan Br. changes), most of the content from what I recall was transit-related.
The best parts of ANY of the shows are when they focus on the buses and the subways. They could do an ENTIRE SHOW on just the men and women in bus operations alone; showing how the fleet is maintained, how dispatchers do thier jobs, a typical day for a driver, the different types of buses, etc.
The MTA probably thought that a show devoted entirely to that would become boring so they started introducing other segments. Unfortunately, it seems they got carried away and well, we have what we have.
Instead, you get maybe 30 per cent TRANSIT, and the rest consisting of restuarants, salons, music, and tourist traps.
They want to implement more of a lifestyle-type element into the show, but it's clear they've gotten carried away with it. One segment I prominently remember is the 'News Desk,' where they had reports on various projects though the Metro-area. What happened to that?
Make "Transit Transit" 100 PER CENT TRANSIT!! Especially BUSES!!
I suppose in effect you could write them, but the viewership orbably isn't high enough for the MTA to even care. Heh, with the budget problems the MTA is contending with, maybe they could cut TTN first.
If there are some routes being moved, which routes will be moved & what new depot will they move to.
Because I really think this makes a lot of since.
Come on Gun Hill is really close by, and whats the since
of having a bus running on about 8/10 of Westchester Av and ending it at westchester square. And if the trains where getting all the customers then why is there a bus on Westchester Av in the first place?(Except between Southern Blvd and Whitlock Av of course)
And I dont wanna hear that its would be to long
Yes, the subway does serve all but that small section of Westchester Ave, but have you seen the crowds on the Bx4 - and that's with the trains right there for more than 90% of the route and the Bx27 also between Southern Blvd and Soundview.
That said... IMHO it wouldn't be a good move.